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    jvvh5897 how do you know it is uhf and vhf?

    So would I cut cable were I can get to, and add a connector and run new line?

    Does the pre-amp usually have a housing for outdoor use?

    Also who's splitter's are the best, and will I get a 2way and a 3way as I mentioned my setup.

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    Well that antenna is a VHF/UHF combo, if you look athe the very front it has some small radials, then a "V" shaped reflector, this is the UHF section.

    I would drop the whole antenna (you may need some help for that) and replace the coax all the way down to the sets, the bauln coil will go right at the antenna, be sure to get one rated for outdoor use.

    As far as splitters radio shack will work OK as far as a source for them, but if you need to split it more the 2 ways I would get an amplified splitter, if it has to go outdoors then get one that is weather proof.

    I would not use a splitter after another splitter, this may cause the signals to be too low to work at the last set.
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    I also could not see the bauln coil for that antenna, it may be at the top, or that antenna may have one that is integrated into the antenna. and the coax going to it does not have the proper slack in it to keep it from binding up when the rotor turns, use a loop about 8 to 10 inches long, attached to the mast above and below the rotor, use about ten wraps of good outdoor electrical tape to secure the coax to the mast.
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    So Terryl, just to be clear, I will change out cable right from the antenna which, I assume is connected right to antenna?, and this coil is located in the open, not housed by anything? and I should change this coil? And what about pre-amp, don't worry about it?

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    Yes, change the coax all the way up, and when you lower the antenna you should see how the coax is interfaced with the antenna, some had one that was integrated right into the antenna, others just have 2 wingnuts to attach the wire leads from the coil to the antenna.

    This is what the coil will look like,(somewhat)75ohm.jpgcoax goes in one end, the other leads go to the antenna.

    I don't think you need a pre-amp, one is only needed if the coax is real long (over 100 feet) or you have several TV sets to supply through an un-amplified splitter.
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    well Terryl this is for 3-4 tv's and I may need two splitters? So now what? lol

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    Get one amplified splitter, they have 4 way ones that will work fine for your location.
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    One like this will work fine for your app, if you need more then 4 ways an 8 way is the next step.
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    "If you did mess with it, and now it doesn't work, can you blame someone else?"

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    like which one? lol. and thanks for your help, so you think I will see better results?

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    Oppps sorry my fault, too much scotch.....Here it is again.

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    http://www.amazon.com/Channel-Vision-CVT-2-4PIA-Amplified/dp/B000KPS3GS
    And yes it will help.
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    ok perfect. so any amplified splitter will be fine correct? easy on the scotch. lol

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    Yup, any will work,but if you going to use it outside then a weather proof one would be the best choice........Hic!!! ......Hic!!!!!! .......Hic!!!!!!
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    ok, so I removed one splitter and things have already improved. I had a 2way and a 3way, removed the 2way, and managed a stronger signal picked up 25 channels total, couple news ones channel 2 i got two new ones, and picked up chanel 26.1 as well. I think I will continue to change cable at some point, one question, does the amplified splitter require a ac outlet to be plugged in? if so where do most people plug it in if it is outside?

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    You can buy ones that inject power onto the coax--so plug in somewhere that is close to outlet near tv.

    Interestingly, almost all standard splitters that I have tested pass DC to all ports. There are some built for satellite use that have DC block on one port and pass DC to one port. I often use standard splitters on satellite lines--the LNB amplifies up the signal so a splitter does not affect your STB and you can test the signal on the second port or feed another box (DC block might be needed to second box, but I have a few DC block gizmos)
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    Terryl, I am back at this one, I have not yet, changed out the cable for the antenna, lot's of work, so what I did was I had a Sat cable unused so I went out and bought a Focus-8HD 90D 8 bay antenna. I wanted to compare this with old Antenna. now keep in mind this antenna is about 10 feet lower than the old one. a few quick questions. I live near Lake ontario, Etobicoke/missisauga border, where would be the best place to aim this antenna, should I aim one towards Toronto and the other bay towards buffalo? I at one time pulled 35 channels, on the old antenna i pulled 23 channels, the funny thing about the focus antenna, i seem to be missing channels like fox 29 tv, 4 and 7, are not always coming up either, well have yet to pull in fox 29. i am comparing the two antennas because the old one, on a good sunny day i got channels like 2,4,7,26,49, etc, but not so good days i do not, what could be the issue, do you think the antenna is not strong enough?, or could it be this old issue with the cable? I am not sure with the focus I won't have the same issue on a not so nice day as well, but this why I am experimenting. I thought it was easier than running all new cable on the old antenna, plus someone told me possibly the old antenna may bot be strong enough, than the newer HD channels, is this true?

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